decoration decoration
Stories

GROKLAW
When you want to know more...
decoration
For layout only
Home
Archives
Site Map
Search
About Groklaw
Awards
Legal Research
Timelines
ApplevSamsung
ApplevSamsung p.2
ArchiveExplorer
Autozone
Bilski
Cases
Cast: Lawyers
Comes v. MS
Contracts/Documents
Courts
DRM
Gordon v MS
GPL
Grokdoc
HTML How To
IPI v RH
IV v. Google
Legal Docs
Lodsys
MS Litigations
MSvB&N
News Picks
Novell v. MS
Novell-MS Deal
ODF/OOXML
OOXML Appeals
OraclevGoogle
Patents
ProjectMonterey
Psystar
Quote Database
Red Hat v SCO
Salus Book
SCEA v Hotz
SCO Appeals
SCO Bankruptcy
SCO Financials
SCO Overview
SCO v IBM
SCO v Novell
SCO:Soup2Nuts
SCOsource
Sean Daly
Software Patents
Switch to Linux
Transcripts
Unix Books

Gear

Groklaw Gear

Click here to send an email to the editor of this weblog.


You won't find me on Facebook


Donate

Donate Paypal


No Legal Advice

The information on Groklaw is not intended to constitute legal advice. While Mark is a lawyer and he has asked other lawyers and law students to contribute articles, all of these articles are offered to help educate, not to provide specific legal advice. They are not your lawyers.

Here's Groklaw's comments policy.


What's New

STORIES
No new stories

COMMENTS last 48 hrs
No new comments


Sponsors

Hosting:
hosted by ibiblio

On servers donated to ibiblio by AMD.

Webmaster
Win 8 and Secure Boot | 120 comments | Create New Account
Comments belong to whoever posts them. Please notify us of inappropriate comments.
The EU Commission's Fine on Microsoft - What's Wrong With It? ~pj
Authored by: cjk fossman on Thursday, March 07 2013 @ 09:19 PM EST
I do not support any flavor of Explorer in my Apps.

The Web framework I use contains some IE specific css, but if that fails to
handle the quirks, clients are advised to use Firefox or Chrome. End of
discussion.

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

The EU Commission's Fine on Microsoft - What's Wrong With It? ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 07 2013 @ 10:49 PM EST
Actually I think it started with Firefox in 2004.

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

When they are going to investigate Windows 8, and secure boot
Authored by: ailuromancy on Friday, March 08 2013 @ 01:06 AM EST

My bet would be a year after there is a good workaround usable by the average penguin. The sentence will arrive two years later, and require Microsoft to do something. A year later Microsoft gets fined for non-compliance. Microsoft will get the fine delayed another year by blaming the manufacturers. I am sure that the commission will resolve this matter in early 2019.

By the time the fine actually gets paid, the entire PC market will be completely different. The real competition in OS choice will be between different Linux variants like Android and Tizen. Microsoft will lose/alienate/bankrupt its distribution channel and become the sole distributor of Windows computers and software, probably by buying the desiccated corpse of one of its current partners. The price of Windows will get so high that only the mostly hideously locked in government agencies (like the NHS) will be able to afford it.

I am sure Microsoft will still be a big player in the software market. The challenge is to work out how.

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

They bought non-compliance - unless the months are added on
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 08 2013 @ 04:05 AM EST
This will be outrageous if they bought non-compliance - the months must be added
on, plus more, the fine is trivial, surely this couldn't happen. ...Surely
Microsoft's history of this type of shenanigans precedes them, the EC must not
allow this.

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

Win 8 and Secure Boot
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 08 2013 @ 04:49 AM EST
I'm on an Asus Z77 board and a recent bios update included secure boot. l disengaged it.

I'm still on XP but have a Win 7 drive that I rarely ever boot. Did recently and after new drivers were loaded
I could not reboot into Win 7 . . . nor could I reboot into any of my XP drives. Once I pulled power from
the Win 7 drive and detached the data cable from the MB, I was able to boot into my XP drives.

Maybe no connection at all. . . . but somehow doubt it. Keep in mind, secure boot had been disabled
in the bios the entire time. . . unless it enabled automatically when it sensed a Win 7 drive was about to load.

MS isn't treating secure boot lightly, although they seem to have forgotten that the mention of "Microsoft" and
"secure" in close proximity has always provided belly laughs. It's a ruse used to strip a system of it's
basic hardware functions if anything other than their latest and greatest OS flavor is loading.

MS now owns the x86 platform?

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

Groklaw © Copyright 2003-2013 Pamela Jones.
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners.
Comments are owned by the individual posters.

PJ's articles are licensed under a Creative Commons License. ( Details )