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...gives matter to mass?
Authored by: Nick_UK on Thursday, March 14 2013 @ 01:15 PM EDT
But you miss the whole point here.

The mathematical model predicted this 'boson' as proposed by Higgs. Scientists
have been looking for it ever since.

Then one day, something was observed at exactly (well almost exactly, as we are
talking real small measurements here) where the model said it should be - not
just once, but but TWO separate and isolated experiments.

I don't think we can compare quantum levels of energy to be what we consider
energy in the way you compared.

Nick

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...gives matter to mass?
Authored by: jesse on Thursday, March 14 2013 @ 03:11 PM EDT

Yes.

1,2: The difference is that the particle doesn't appear alone in nature. To separate everything else out DOES take a lot of energy, and that is what is released when the particle decays.

3: The Higgs particle doesn't decay when combined with other particles. That is my understanding of why the other particles exhibit mass. But you can't measure/detect the higgs when it is combined... So you use a lot of energy to isolate it. Once it it IS alone, it doesn't last long.

And for your last, It isn't illogical, just counter-intuitive. All that means is that your view of the universe is still limited. Things that appear illogical just means you don't understand the underlying physics.

The reason to carry out experiments is to verify whether the mathematics is properly mapping/describing the universe.

refer to Newtons formula.

This is Newtons understanding of gravity... Mathematically proper.... But it predicts that objects can travel faster than light just by falling together... If reality agreed, then the galaxy wouldn't exist (part of it would fly apart, other parts would collapse). As it is, things are holding together pretty well, so the mathematical model isn't quite right...

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Perhaps it does give matter to mass....
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 14 2013 @ 07:07 PM EDT

Those quantum mechanics sure are strange..... perhaps this Higgs Boson character is sitting out there with a marble that happens to be our Universe and he's going:

    hmm... there seems to be some mass over here... and it's concentrated.... better put a little lead there....
Sorry - I should warn people when I'm getting goofy!

RAS

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...gives matter to mass?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 15 2013 @ 06:35 AM EDT
Alternate explination for what happens to all that energy:

It spontainiously becomes another Higgs Boson.

I always love that Feynmann diagrams let you mess with the time/space axis' :)


Or am I out of date on physics?

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