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Apple sought $30-40 per device from Samsumg | 188 comments | Create New Account
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Apple sought $30-40 per device from Samsumg
Authored by: stegu on Sunday, August 12 2012 @ 08:47 AM EDT
Not to support Apple's position here (which I think is unreasonable in the
extreme), but PJ's comment on the inconsistency of Apple complaining over
expensive FRAND licensing is a bit like comparing apples to oranges. FRAND
licensing is supposed to make standards-essential patents available to
competitors to create a reasonably level playing field. The Apple case against
Samsung is all about preventing Samsung from competing at all. This is not about
Apple seeking monetary compensation for patents. It's a crusade to crush
Android. It has the opposite effect on me - I just bought the most expensive
Samsung phone I could find.

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Interesting article about Apple witness testimony
Authored by: pem on Sunday, August 12 2012 @ 12:53 PM EDT
Forbes: Apple v. Samsung: Don't ever believe what people tell you

About Apple's MIT Marketing Prof. John Hauser arguing that Apple's patented features added $100 to what people were willing to pay for Samsung's phones.

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Kirby Ferguson: Embrace the remix (TED Talk video)
Authored by: Gringo_ on Monday, August 13 2012 @ 12:12 AM EDT

I watched the video and the commercial after, but it was an AT&T commercial - not the Samsung commercial PJ says she saw. However, it did feature a smart phone. Though I could not discern the brand name, nor was it mentioned, I would guess it was an iPhone, because it had that distinctive and novel rectangular shape with rounded corners that only an inventive company like Apple would think of.

Anyhow, all sarcasm aside, I think it is great to see these kinds of endorsements for remixing. Kirby Ferguson emphasized the human dimensions, that remixing is as natural as sharing... Well - he didn't mention sharing, but I thought that was a nice touch to add.

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Star 7
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 13 2012 @ 07:01 AM EDT
Is it too late for this to be brought forward as prior art?
Did Sun let anyone else know about this, or have one around still. Did Oracle
throw it out with the trash when they cleaned out the Sun offices.

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DOJ Won’t Ask Supreme Court to Review Hacking Case: ramblings
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 13 2012 @ 12:08 PM EDT
"DOJ Won’t Ask Supreme Court to Review Hacking Case":

The law was passed in 1984...

What is the state of affairs when the majority of the population are breaking
the law every day?

What's the definition of Revolution?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry these days.

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What does Apple REALLY want from Samsung?
Authored by: BobinAlaska on Monday, August 13 2012 @ 02:18 PM EDT
This is a well written article. I think it is a shame that Samsung is not able to put the following quote form the article in front of the jury.

"From a mid 1990s interview, Jobs says: "Picasso had a saying, he said: 'Good artists copy, great artists steal'. We have, you know, always, ah, been shameless about stealing great ideas".

Later a dying, and perhaps embittered, Jobs tells his biographer Walter Isaacson: "I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong...I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this"."

If you haven't read it yet please do, it is worth it. Clicky for your convenience

Bob Helm, North Las Vegas, NV

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Apple expert shines light...
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 13 2012 @ 05:26 PM EDT
So M$ has "licensed" design patents, with a "no-cloning"
clause to prevent them from actually using the licensed designs?

And Apple offers a "discount" to their licenses if you don't use their

What about this seems like the licenses aren't about designs or technology?
Sounds like "pay us if you don't, pay us even more if you do".

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Samsung Prospects Dim
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 13 2012 @ 07:31 PM EDT
This Newspick extensively quotes Christopher Carani .
He is an
Invited Speaker: "Apple v. Samsung-Design Patents in Action,"
New York State Bar Association, New York, New York, September 2012
His slide set from a WIPO conference is available as [PDF, 57pp, 5.7MB]
U.S. Design Patents: The Path To Meaningful and Sustainable Protection .
It'd be interesting to hear more of what he says about this case.

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