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Windows != Security
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 22 2013 @ 12:35 PM EDT
Yes, it is possible, but how much damage can it do? Unless that user has super
user privileges, it can only affect the files and directories she has control
and rights over. It cannot touch any system files, nor set up to run when the
computer boots. The MBR and boot sectors are also untouchable. There was an
article published about this a number of years ago (2005) titled "The short
life and hard times of a Linux virus." It's still available at

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Can a Linux user download and run malware? Sure....
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 22 2013 @ 12:52 PM EDT

... but with the security built from the ground up with security in mind, you have to actually make some pretty serious changes to the security of your standard* Linux computer before it becomes reasonably friendly to malware.

Let's say you want to set up a Linux Computer to "operate like Microsoft" from the perspective of downloading and installing software without requiring knowledge of the administrative aspects of the computer. But... at the same time you want to maintain the hightened security sacrificing as little of it as possible.

You could do that.... setting it up so a person could just click on an .exe and run it as themselves.

    1: Install WINE
    2: Map the WINE drives to reflect the normal structure of the Linux OS - but not to those directories
    3: Grant usage of WINE to the user
    4: Update the extension recognition to automatically run WINE when the user clicks on an .exe
That's a pretty easy setup to put in place. It doesn't take much knowledge at all and one doesn't have to put much effort into hacking around the core Unix/Linux security.

Voila! What's the worst that could happen?

    A: The user becomes a spam bot that is running - but only when the user is logged into Linux
    B: The virus trashes the users home directory
What's most likely to happen?
    The virus thinks it's on a windows machine - it is running within WINE after all with the similar C: D: drive mappings.
    As a result, it modifies the system files in "windows" rather then the system files in "linux".... or more appropriately, it attempts to.
    After the user has "viewed" the results of the virus, the virus gets shut down and doesn't restart until the next time the user explicitly runs it.
You've still got all the rest of the underlying security protecting the system... including the halting of the user processes - back-end or otherwise - when the user logs out.

So you're absolutely right - a user can download and run malicious software.

But unless you take some serious efforts to decrease the security in Unix/Linux - it's a really hostile environment to malware.

* Obviously someone with enough security knowledge can hack around all the defaults of the standard Unix/Linux installation and make a Windows-like Linux box. They could even set it up so it automatically logs in as Root for the unwitting user.

Caveat: the discussion is around the "operator error" aspect - which means the user is unwittingly executing malicious code. Such a user doesn't have a good understanding of security or system administration and would not be in the position of making the appropriate de-security modifications themselves.


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Windows != Security
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 22 2013 @ 02:50 PM EDT
> Isn't it possible for a Linux user to download, install, and run malware?

With Windows a file is executable if it has a particular filename 'type' such as
.bat, .cmd, .exe, etc. So a downloaded file can immediately become executable.
As the default setting in Windows is that the 'type' is hidden then files such
as cutepuppy.jpg.exe appear to be cutepuppy.jpg, a harmless image. Clicking on
this, even as an email attachment, could get it to execute.

With Unix/Linux a downloaded file is not executable until the user has made it
so by setting the 'executable bit(s)' in the file attributes.

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