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Authored by: feldegast on Wednesday, April 25 2012 @ 05:16 AM EDT |
License is not ownership
ownership would be joint copyright or an exclusive license
Without the license, Google would not be allowed to provide
the files to you for your own downloading or for sharing with
others when you choose to share it
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IANAL
My posts are ©2004-2012 and released under the Creative Commons License
Attribution-Noncommercial 2.0
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 25 2012 @ 06:29 AM EDT |
you give Google and friends a worldwide licence to use, host, store, reproduce,
modify, create derivative works (translations, adaptations or other changes that
we make), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and
distribute such content.
Is indeed a license grant, not an ownership statement
From a qualitative and quantitative point of view though, how do the two differ?
(BTW Not a License Grant and Ownership,
*the* stated license grant and ownership differ how)
What rights does ownership give me that are not given away under this license?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 25 2012 @ 10:58 AM EDT |
Stuff is not Google's to do anything with. Google needs to change this ASAP,
And, to allow for all to file *all* stuff away fully encrypted.
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Authored by: tknarr on Wednesday, April 25 2012 @ 01:30 PM EDT |
This, though: the whole point of Google Drive is to do exactly what
the license says they can do. If they don't have a license to host the files,
how can they legally host them for you? If they don't have a right to reproduce
and publish them, how can they copy them to backup and make them available
through the Web interface? If they can't convert between formats, how are they
to convert what you upload to their internal storage format and then convert it
further into the format most suited to the device you're using to view
it?
We've all noted that the Internet is copying in a very
fundamental way. Almost everything it does involves making and distributing a
copy, either verbatim or transformed into something different. I don't find
these terms themselves particularly surprising. The only thing that bothers me
is the lack of an explicit statement of the purpose they're doing all this for
and that they won't do it for any other purpose.
And no, I won't be using
Google Drive even if they add that purpose limitation. Too much of my stuff is
covered by either contracts or laws that make it inappropriate to put it on any
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 25 2012 @ 02:40 PM EDT |
The rights that you grant in this licence are for the limited
purpose of operating, promoting and improving our Services, and to develop new
ones.
So... the real question of concern is in understanding how
any given service is going to use the data you provide.
If Google creates
a service for book distribution, and you upload "Larry Trotter And The Seven
Suns"... does the "make derivative works" clause have a limitation somewhere
that prevents Google from creating "Larry Trotter And The Eight Suns"?
My
point is: So long as Google makes use of the license grants in order to provide
a service "to me", it's understandable why they have such a clause. But... to
proceed to create a derivative book to the novel I authored and sell it without
entering additional agreements with me would be unacceptable.
If I was
inclined to agree to such wide-encompassing terms as Google presents, it would
certainly not be my understanding (whether or not it's explicitly identified)
that the license grant extended to activities outside of explicitly providing
services to me.
Just to clarify: providing a copy of my book to a third
party that I did not authorize would not have been part of the
bargain.
So... to answer that concern: does the limitation identified
ensure such protections?
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