Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 12:58 PM EDT |
Caleb Garling @CalebGarling
"You have open APIs, and then compete on implementations." -Schwartz.
Throwing a lot of cold water on Oracle's case right now
Ginny LaRoe @GinnyLaRoe
straight from the Java man's mouth --> Schwartz says APIs always free along
with open source Java language. Never proprietary.
Good old Florian, dodging the real issues and spinning irrelevant stuff to try
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 01:00 PM EDT |
"With the exception of Red Hat, which didn't build Linux itself, no company
ever made serious money on only that basis."
Who's currently paying Linus?
How many Linux engineers is IBM employing? (Yes, I know they're mostly a
hardware company)
How many Linux engineers is Redhat employing for maintenance and new features?[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 01:07 PM EDT |
This is great news! In the SCO trial, remember how the astroturfers worked round
the clock with "the sky is falling" rhetoric--when something fatal to
their case was coming down?
It's interesting that everyone IN the industry (the SOFTWARE industry, that is,
not the freelance PR industry) is saying ORACLE's line of reasoning would be
fatal to the industry.
And, of course, FM misses the entire point of FOSS: the real economy is about
using computers in workplaces to make money more efficiently--not setting up
businesses to extract extortion payments from people just because they use
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 01:11 PM EDT |
I've been following the case on twitter, and my first thought
was "Oh no! What will Florian think?"
Is that wrong?
Sorry, he just annoys me.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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Authored by: jbb on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 01:31 PM EDT |
As I've posted elsewhere, Oracle's API copyright case boils down to:
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Assume Jonathan Schwartz is an idiot.
- ... ?
- Profit!
This may
look like a great plan on paper to people who have never met or seen Jonathan
Schwartz but once the real Jonathan Schwartz enters the room, the entire plan
falls apart.
Over the past week many of the more obnoxious trolls here have
been using this same battle plan. It appears to be a thinly veiled attempt by
Oracle to join in on the wave of corporate irresponsibility that has ravaged our
economy.
--- Our job is to remind ourselves that there are more
contexts than the one we’re in now — the one that we think is reality.
-- Alan Kay [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 02:02 PM EDT |
I won't link to it, but the general gist is that he still
doesn't understand the difference between the license that
code is distributed under, and some tenuous concept of a
idea-copyright/patent license on the ideas of what that
software does.
This is with respect to the APIs of course.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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Authored by: PJ on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 02:22 PM EDT |
All of that is irrelevant. The court case
is about whether APIs are open and were when
Google used them. If so, then it doesn't
matter if Sun should have done things that
way or not.
Anyway, lots of proprietary companies let
you use their APIs and they don't go out
of business. I mean, don't you get access
to APIs just to do an app?[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 02:54 PM EDT |
The Microsoft monopoly is what perverted the software market. Free (as in free
(figure it out strangers)) software, though not solely a product of this
perversion (and likely would have developed anyway) became a necessity for
newcomers to express themselves.
Oracle was just being greedy slobbering all over themselves thinking they too
could be a microsoft.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 03:30 PM EDT |
Florian would probably endorse cow pies and ice cream for the
right price.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 04:54 PM EDT |
RAS [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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Authored by: Neeld on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 10:46 PM EDT |
At least now people are starting to understand that he's paid
to post his
biased blog posts. It's good to see people calling
him out. Here is an
article:
The ethics of astro-
turfing: sleazy or smart business?[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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