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Authored by: Winter on Tuesday, September 25 2012 @ 05:43 AM EDT |
"if their God provides them with a billion of years of history fitting
together like a perfect miracle of a jigsaw puzzle"
This idea comes up from time to time. However, it presupposes that this god
lies. I think Christians will have some problems with incorporating this fact
into their belief system.
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Some say the sun rises in the east, some say it rises in the west; the truth
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, September 25 2012 @ 11:00 AM EDT |
Whilst Creation Science advocates are guilty of bad science, evolutionists
are equally guilty of equally bad science.
Like virtually every other scientific theory, the theory gains popularity, not
because it provides a better explanation, but because the advocates of the
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, September 25 2012 @ 12:50 PM EDT |
The problem I have with Evolution is that people are teaching it as if it were a
Law already. Scientists are using the theory as a "pre-determined
truth" in other theories, which is against the scientific method. Until
Evolution is proven correct for all cases, it should not be used as a base for
other theories, and it should not be taught that it is the only possible answer.
Doing so prevents scientists from coming up with other possible theories that
better explain the observed facts - and yes, those who currently try to do so
are being vilified. There are flaws and holes in the theory, which have caused
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, September 25 2012 @ 12:58 PM EDT |
In the beginning, God created evolution. And ever since, somebody has been
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Authored by: PJ on Wednesday, September 26 2012 @ 01:53 AM EDT |
The problem I have with creationists is that if their God provides them with
a billion of years of history fitting together like a perfect miracle of a
jigsaw puzzle, there is no point in refusing to look at this masterwork of
creation and coherency and learn from it.
There certainly are those who
fit that description. But
I don't, and I am a Christian, and I don't believe in
evolution. But I'm not ignorant or stupid. Nor do I refuse to look at and learn
from anything. Just saying. Generalizations don't usually prove to be
always accurate,
and if we are going to be scientific, it might be best
not to
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, September 26 2012 @ 04:51 PM EDT |
Oh, I am a "science guy" myself. I have no problems with
casting doubt
on evolution theories. It is the job of science to cast doubt and
verify, using
the available data and connecting it into coherent
theories.
A scientist with a job needs funding. A
primary aspect of the job is to
procure funding and keep the money people happy
with the results. If all they
want is unbiased research and truth, this is
wonderful.
It is very important for anyone wanting to keep the job to
know for sure
what the people with the funds want, and deliver what they want,
that
is, if you want the funds to continue.
I think many religions
false and make money selling Blue Sky after we die and never deliver the goods
we paid and obeyed for. I mean, I'm not inclined to believe they are all true,
or even decent for that matter.
Beware of false prophets, sharing hymn
books with harlots and child molesting priests.
Are you as
discriminating as me about men who call themselves Scientists? I hope
so.
If not, the jokes on you and you allow yourself to be played for a
chump.
Do you actually follow the money trail, before deciding that the
science is actually
science.
The problem I
have with
creationists is not their belief in God, or even a creation made 6000
years ago
looking as if it had a history of billions of years: all the
past I
know exists only in its effects on the current state of the world
including my
brain, and there is no way I could prove it has not been created in
this state 5
minutes ago, or not at all.
A day for us is
one revolution of the Earth. For an Infinite God, a day
might be one revolution
of the Universe. In any event I don't know of
a religion that thinks God lives
exclusively on Earth and counts His days
by its revolutions.
About
proof, I tend to agree with you, neither can prove, both of us can however
demonstrate.
The problem I have with creationists
is that
if their God provides them with a billion of years of history
fitting
together like a perfect miracle of a jigsaw puzzle, there is no point
in
refusing to look at this masterwork of creation and coherency and learn
from
it.
Refusing to look at this masterwork of creation . . .?
Say what!
O Lord my God! When I in awesome wonder
Consider all the
worlds Thy hands have made,
I see the stars, I hear the rolling thunder,
Thy
power throughout the universe displayed:
When through the woods and forest
glades I wander
and hear the birds sing sweetly in the trees;
When I look down
from lofty mountain grandeur
And hear the brook and feel the gentle
breeze:
And you who probably thinks you are intelligent, are
you an accident? If God exists or if She doesn't,
has nothing whatsoever to do
with man's opinion of Her, you know that much for sure.
And you who are
nothing but an Accident, dare to place if conditions on the existence of a God,
for example? We aren't that smart are we?
How Intelligent do you think your
Accidental existence really is?
What this really is about is
not a choice of faith over unbelief, but
rather a choice of ignorance over
knowledge, a choice of apathy over
curiosity.
Do you
infer that believers are ignorant apathetic people. That
would be EASY for
science to prove, I mean Super Easy prove if it where
true.
And if it were
true, we probably wouldn't need scientists to tell
us, because it would be so
obvious.
That's a valid lifestyle choice, but it has no place
in education.
This choice means dropping out of education, and education can't
meaningfully
cover that.
You are not the product of anything
Intelligent are you? I think it
arrogant for a literal accident, a mishap such
as you to even talk about meaning.
I'm not wanting to be harsh to you,
I am trying to make a point.
Do accidents have meaning?
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