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Authored by: tiger99 on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 06:12 AM EST |
It is useful to put the nature of the correction in the title of your post,
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Authored by: tiger99 on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 06:14 AM EST |
Anything on-topic in this thread may expose you to ridicule, flaming or a
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Authored by: tiger99 on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 06:16 AM EST |
Groklaw newspicks may be freely discussed here, but please try to make a link to
the original article so that it can still be found when it disappears off the
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 06:16 AM EST |
So Apple, I gather, will not hold HTC responsible for Android
features HTC didn't create but just got from Google or the Open Handset
Alliance. But Samsung on the other hand will be held responsible for
those very features?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: tiger99 on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 06:17 AM EST |
The transcription work, that is [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: tiger99 on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 06:18 AM EST |
See previous articles for what this is about, and please cast your vote! [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: jkrise on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 06:26 AM EST |
As I understood, the judge Lucy Koh's order was very clear - to file the entire
Apple-HTC agreement, minus just the commercial terms - about 33 words, as per
our 'expert' Florian Mueller. If HTC black out so many details, will they not be
found in contempt of court?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: maroberts on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 07:16 AM EST |
I strongly suspect that none of the patents relate to GPL
code. Most of Android is under the Apache license, with only
the kernel and assorted drivers under GPL or LGPL.
Let me know if I've done a Florian and got it completely
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- GPL - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 07:24 AM EST
- GPL - Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 09:44 AM EST
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 07:48 AM EST |
We probably don't say it often enough.
This kind of information is exactly where Groklaw shines.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 09:41 AM EST |
The contract in includes a "publicity clause" as shown
below:
13.10 Publicity. Within five (5) days after the
effective Date, HTC may issue a press release or make a public statement
substantially as set forth in, and limited to the substance of, Exhibit E, and
therafter the information to the extent disclosed in such press release or
public announcement shall not be confidential. Subject to the foregoing, neither
Party shall issue a press release or make any other public statement regarding
this Agreement or the settlement of the Litigation without the prior written
approval of the other Party, except as premitted under Section 13.9. For the
avoidance of doubt, there shall be no obligation on either Party to issue any
such press release or make any such public statement.
This is
probably a pretty routine type of clause and it's probably in a lot of
settlement contracts. I think it's important to keep this in mind when reading
press releases about settlements in other cases. The important things to note
here are that:
- HTC, and only HTC is permitted to issue the
press release.
- The contents of the press release were negotiated as
part of the settlement.
This shows that issuing a press release
isn't the prerogative of the "winner" (unless you believe that Apple "lost" in
this case). So, when Microsoft issues a press release saying how they have
settled an "IP lawsuit" with an Android vendor, it doesn't mean that the result
was favourable for Microsoft. It just means that Microsoft negotiated the right
to be the one to issue an agreed statement and they may have given up something
in return for that right. That press release is worth money to Microsoft's PR
department, and the other party will know that and may have gotten something in
return.
In other words, take these types of press releases with a very
large grain of salt.
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Authored by: jkrise on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 09:57 AM EST |
I feel this information which is blacked out in the agreement can be crucial as
well. If the 'allowed' HTC models have a similar look and feel to the trade
dress which Apple seeks to protect, Samsung can claim similar relief, even if
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 10:39 AM EST |
The patents which are excluded from the agreement are:
Apple:
None
HTC: US Patent nos 6,708,214, 6,473,006, 7,289,772,
6,868,283, 7,020,849, 5,418,524, 5,630,142, 5,680,159, and
5,302,947.
They all seem to be typical "software patents" of the sort
that Apple and Microsoft like to beat other people with. While searching for the
patents I found a Youtube video of someone explaining the 6868283 patent. YouTube: HTC Patent 6868283
. It's definitely worth looking at to get an idea of what these patents are
like.
I attempted to link the actual patents, but Groklaw seemed to be
doing something to the links so they won't work with the USPTO web site (the
URLs used by the USPTO web site are a bit rediculous though). However, you can
find them yourself using Google if you are interested. The patent abstracts are
listed below.
Patent: 6,708,214
Hypermedia identifier input mode for a mobile communication
device
Abstract
A mobile communication device operable to
allow a user to access hypermedia content via a wireless link is configured to
allow a user to more easily input hypermedia identifiers, such as Uniform
Resource Locators (URLs). The device includes a processor, a display, a set of
user input keys, each of which is operable to allow a user to input a
predetermined numeral, and a storage facility in which a microbrowser program is
stored. The microbrowser program is executed by the processor to configure the
mobile telephone to allow the user to access remotely stored hypermedia content
via the wireless link. Also stored in the storage facility are a plurality of
URL fragments. Each URL fragment is associated with one of the user input keys.
In response to a single predefined user input at a given one of the user input
keys, the microbrowser program selects the corresponding URL fragment and causes
the selected URL fragment to be displayed. The user may then input additional
characters that are appended to the selected URL fragment, or the URL fragment
may be appended to characters previously input by the user, to form a complete
URL. The number of keystrokes required by the user to input a complete URL is
thereby reduced.
Patent: 6,473,006
Method and apparatus for zoomed display of characters
entered from a telephone keypad
Abstract
A method and
apparatus to provide users with enhanced visual feedback after entry of data.
When a user activates a key or inputs a sequence of keystrokes, a corresponding
data character or characters is determined and displayed in a highlighting
window. The desired character or set of characters may be determined by a
predictive data entry method. The highlighting window provides greater visual
feedback to the user through magnification, reverse video, or some other form of
contrast enhancement method. If the user scrolls to a new character or
characters because the currently displayed one(s) are not desired, then the new
character or characters are displayed in the highlighting window. When the user
ceases scrolling, indicating that the currently displayed character or
characters are what the user desires, the highlighting window disappears and the
display of the selected character or characters is restored to be the same
format as previously entered characters.
Patent: 7,289,772
Technique allowing a status bar user response on a portable
device graphic user interface
Abstract
The present invention
relates to a method for utilizing a graphic user interface in a portable
electronic device. Specifically, the present invention pertains to a method of
using a portion of a graphic user interface display to provide information to
the user without disrupting an application in progress. The user interface
provides tools that enable the user to answer or reject an incoming call,
without interruption of applications already operating on the device during the
call. On a portable electronic device that combines computer functions and
wireless telephone functions, the user is able to view caller ID information, in
an information window, while using another application. Further, the user is
able to make a decision about answering or rejecting the call and execute the
appropriate response, all without having to interrupt the application currently
in use. It is appreciated that the portable electronic device could be a
cellular phone, a personal data assistant, a pager, etc.
Patent: 6,868,283
Technique allowing a status bar user response on a portable
device graphic user interface
Abstract
The present invention
relates to a method for utilizing a graphic user interface in a portable
electronic device. Specifically, the present invention pertains to a method of
using a portion of a graphic user interface display to provide information to
the user without disrupting an application in progress. The user interface
provides tools that enable the user to answer or reject an incoming call,
without interruption of applications already operating on the device during the
call. On a portable electronic device that combines computer functions and
wireless telephone functions, the user is able to view caller ID information, in
an information window, while using another application. Further, the user is
able to make a decision about answering or rejecting the call and execute the
appropriate response, all without having to interrupt the application currently
in use. It is appreciated that the portable electronic device could be a
cellular phone, a personal data assistant, a pager, etc.
Patent: 7,020,849
Dynamic display for communication
devices
Abstract
Techniques for displaying information on
communication devices are disclosed. The techniques are highly beneficial for
devices with relatively small viewing areas (e.g., remote wireless phones). An
enhanced communication device can be implemented which can dynamically display
information on an associated display. This means that there is no need to
reserve various areas on the display for displaying. Instead, information may be
assigned or unassigned to the different display portions dynamically. As a
result, the display area can be used more efficiently.
Patent: 5,418,524
Method and apparatus for over-the-air upgrading of radio
modem application software
Abstract
A radio modem (100) having
application software (128) stored therein receives upgrade information via
over-the-air selective call messaging. The upgrade information comprises upgrade
installation information and upgrade data. A microprocessor (108) compiles the
upgrade installation information and operates to upgrade the application
software (128) in accordance with the upgrade installation information and in
response to the upgrade data. Likewise, application software in the computer
(302) can be upgraded by over-the-air transmission of upgrade information to the
radio modem (100).
Patent: 5,630,142
Multifunction power switch and feedback led for suspend
systems
Abstract
A computer system having four states of power
management: a normal operating state, a standby state, a suspend state, and an
off state. A control unit controls transitions between the various states. The
standby state is characterized by devices, such as a video controller and a hard
drive, being placed into a low-power mode transparent to the operating system
and the applications executing on the computer system. The suspend state is
characterized by executing code being interrupted and the state of the computer
system being saved to a file on the hard drive in such a manner that system
power may be removed after the state of the computer system is saved to the hard
drive. Later, after system power is restored, the state of the computer system
is resumed by reading from the hard drive and loading it in such a manner that
the operating system and application programs are not adversely affected. The
normal operating state and the off state correspond to the typical on and off
states of more conventional computer systems. A single switch causes transitions
between the various states. A visual feedback device, such as an LED is used to
indicate the state of the computer system. While no power management driver is
active, the control unit delays state transitions until a suitable power
management driver is active.
Patent:
5,680,159
This patent expired in 1997 due to non-payment of
"maintenance fees" to the US Patent Office. It's a good question as to why it is
listed in the lawsuit.
Interactive display system using a
laser disk player replaying video frames
Abstract
An
interactive display system is described using a standard TV monitor placed on a
touch position sensor. A control operates with the output touch signals from the
touch position sensor to produce frame number signals that are representative of
the frames stored on a laser disk. The laser disk player generates the desired
video frame signals which are applied to the TV monitor to display the frames.
The touch signals from the touch position sensor provide an indication of where
a person has made contact with the screen of the TV monitor to thus enable the
person to interact with the information in the frames stored on the laser disk
in a simple and rapid manner.
Patent:
5,302,947
Method and apparatus for loading a software
program from a radio modem into an external
computer
Abstract
A method and apparatus in a selective call
receiver (100) choose and load a software driver program (124) into an external
computer (302). The apparatus comprises a data interface (118) for coupling with
the external computer (302) and a memory (122) containing pre-programmed data
comprising a plurality of executable software driver programs (124). The
apparatus further comprises a processor (108) coupled to the memory (122) and to
the data interface (118) for controlling interactions between the memory (122)
and the data interface (118). The method comprises the steps of: coupling (402)
the data interface (118) to the external computer (302); receiving (404) in
response a signal comprising an identifier from the external computer (302);
accessing (406) the memory (122) to locate a software driver program (124)
compatible with the external computer (302) identified by the identifier; and
transmitting (412) to the external computer (302) the software driver program
(124) in response to locating the software driver program (124).
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 10:51 AM EST |
The Huffington Post is now quoting Florian's twin brother Edward
'Naughty'
Naughton as an expert. Guess they didn't do their due diligence
before
posting the article.
Huffington Post
For those who aren't familiar
with Naughty Ed, he's a lawyer who does work
for several tech companies.
Florian has quoted him in the past, and they
agree almost all the
time.
Waynehttp://madhatter.ca
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- So they are both almost always wrong! n/t - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 12:55 PM EST
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 07:00 PM EST |
Doesn't all Android vendors with Microsoft license have issue with GPL too? [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: jkrise on Thursday, December 06 2012 @ 07:51 PM EST |
Some updates trickling in regarding the way in which Lucy Koh is likely to
rule...
http://www.northjersey.com/news/Judge_may_trim_Apples_1_billion_patent_verdict.h
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Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 07 2012 @ 01:55 AM EST |
I must be too simple minded.
That statement suggests to me they wouldn't like open source either.
But it's HTC and they use Android.
Not their code son.
So they're really worried somebody might pay Apple less for rounded corners?
Not this court's problem either, son.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, December 10 2012 @ 12:04 PM EST |
What collaboration are they talking about? in-house? or collaboration is just a
substitute to paying?[ Reply to This | # ]
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