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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 12:49 PM EST |
So, we, the public, don't get to find out if the license agreement
in any way violates the GPL; but since Samsung won the right to see the entire
license agreement, surely it's on the ball and already knows the answer to that
question.
True, but it begs the question of what Samsung could do
about it if it spotted a violation. Given the environment in which it gets to
see the agreement, it couldn't tell the copyright owners about it, for example.
And could it raise in this court a copyright issue between HTC and a third
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 01:07 PM EST |
So much.... interesting?.... stuff in the first part of this
post.
"So another denial for Samsung, which can now add it to the
list for appeal."
No. If everything that has been claimed as a subject for
appeal was actually a subject for appeal in this case, the
initial brief would be, what, 3000 pages long? This isn't a
game of "throw everything against the wall and hope some
stuff sticks." It's pick the best grounds and fight on
those. Appeals have page limits... not that either litigant
has been very good with court limits to date!
"It's been like that every time I check who gets the most
motions denied."
It's almost like one litigant has been more aggressive in
their requests. I wonder if there is a law firm none for
their especially aggressive litigation tactics... heck, they
might even advertise that fact?
"Apple opposed and indeed her order opens with the same
thought used by Apple in its opposition"
Two parties file motions/responses, and present alternate
stories. The judge's job is to accept one of those competing
versions. Ergo, almost all ruling will parrot one version of
events. Not a conspiracy; it's how litigation works.
It doesn't help to view this as rooting for a "team" (team
Apple, team Samsung). They are corporations that have hired
attorneys. They will continue to litigate to their
advantage, and eventually settle. That's how it goes. That's
how it always goes. If you find yourself believing that one
company or the other is "on your side", you will be in for a
world of sorrow in the future.[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Judge Koh Grants HTC's Redactions; Denies Samsung's Motion to File Supplement Expert Declaration~pj - Authored by: Gringo_ on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 01:23 PM EST
- Judge Koh Grants HTC's Redactions; Denies Samsung's Motion to File Supplement Expert Declaration~pj - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 01:33 PM EST
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- Please produce evidence of Samsung's abuse - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 01:48 PM EST
- Please produce evidence of Samsung's abuse - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 03:24 PM EST
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- How is Samsung related to RealTek? - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 04:03 PM EST
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- Ummmm, yeah... - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 05:40 PM EST
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- Given you quoted Posner: do you consider the standard Judicial process extreme? - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 07:36 PM EST
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- my take on it - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 08:43 PM EST
- my take on it - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 13 2012 @ 09:17 AM EST
- my take on it - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 13 2012 @ 11:03 AM EST
- my take on it - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 13 2012 @ 12:44 PM EST
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- Please produce evidence of Samsung's abuse - Authored by: PJ on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 08:26 PM EST
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Authored by: OpenSourceFTW on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 01:14 PM EST |
294!! C'mon people, lets go for 300 :P. Legal As She Spoke is in second place
with 222.
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Authored by: SilverWave on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 01:56 PM EST |
A Bloodbath for 2010: the
Smartphone
market preview
Quote:
LG
A more interesting player in
smartphones is LG. LG is the
third biggest handset maker out of South Korea and
like
Samsung, they have pretty much ignored the smartphone space.
But -
remember the original 'amazing' looks of the iPhone?
That totally radical one
button touch screen flat 3.5 inch
screen wonderphone when first shown by Steve
Jobs in January
2007?
The looks of the iPhone, exact dimensions,
etc, were
considered in January 2007 to be a copy of an industrial
design
winning LG phone - from 2006. Apple designers
cleverly copied an award-winning
LG design to create the
'wow' factor in 2007, because LG had not brought this
phone
to the Western markets (we eventually saw the consumer
version of it as
the LG Chocolate, released in Europe before
the iPhone launched in the USA in
2007). So LG knows fully
well how to do this type of phones and form factors.
They
just haven't bothered to do that as a "smartphone" so far.
But the LG
Chocolate was Europe's bestselling phone at one
point in 2007 and in its
lifetime has sold more units than
all iPhones.
As a previous
poster comments:
Does this suggest that they think that it's OK for
Apple
to
copy the ideas of others but nobody else can do the same
thing?--- RMS: The 4 Freedoms
0 run the program for any purpose
1 study the source code and change it
2 make copies and distribute them
3 publish modified versions
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 02:11 PM EST |
I must be not awake yet, I thought the case was about Apple's patents,
Samsung's alleged infringement of them, and HTC's license to them.
Apple knows all about the GPL, it has GPL components in MacOS.
Apple might have ben displaying some stupidity lately, but that stupid?
Apple also knows about BSD and Apache licenses, it uses them,
so there's a possibility that some of the BSD/Apache licensed parts
of HTC's flavor of Android might come near some of Apple's, but that's
nowhere near this Apple - Samsung case.
How much of Android beyond the Linux kernel is GPL?
I thought the user shell/GUI and the application frameworks
were under a whole slew of other licenses, just like MacOS is.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 03:40 PM EST |
The parties who wrote or participated in relevant GPL'd code should be able to
petition the courts to see these documents in order to determine whether or not
these agreements are in violation of the GPL right? It might take some sort of
lawyering I'm sure, but isn't there anyone here who might take up the fight
enough to file a motion of some kind?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 07:19 PM EST |
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 13 2012 @ 03:49 PM EST |
Love read Groklaw as the only real factual analysis of the Apple v Samsung saga.
I find the optimism about fairness in the US justice system refreshing. But
seriously is there anyone who expected a US judge and a US jury to act fairly
when the case is between a company viewed in the US as heroic and a foreign
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