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Authored by: scav on Monday, January 21 2013 @ 04:18 AM EST |
FTFY.
Individuals are still responsible for their actions.
If the rules are unjust, you bend the rules. If the prosecutor was "only
following orders", then tough. That was never an excuse for cruelty and
injustice, and it never will be.
But in any case, the prosecutor was *not* legally obliged to bully any
defendant (still innocent in the law until tried) with threats of ridiculously
disproportionate charges to try to get a felony conviction nice and easy
without all that messy inconvenience of a fair trial before a jury of his
peers.
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- Precisely - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, January 21 2013 @ 10:13 AM EST
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Authored by: hardmath on Monday, January 21 2013 @ 12:16 PM EST |
“It is difficult to get a man to understand
something, when his
salary depends on his not understanding
it.”
― Upton
Sinclair, I, Candidate for Governor: And How
I Got
Licked
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Authored by: jbb on Monday, January 21 2013 @ 03:38 PM EST |
Certainly the immoral behavior of Carmen Ortiz is a symptom of a corrupt system
but this does not make her a victim by any stretch of the imagination. As the
Car-Talk guys might say, if they're all broken then they all need to be fixed.
Let's start with this one.
The obvious question is: how do we go about
fixing the entire system? How to do start fixing a system the is creating a
steady stream of actual victims? More to the point: what actions can be taken
now that will best help us fix the entire system? Should we continue to ignore
the rampant abuses, excesses, and moral failings or should we finally, at long
last, start to take actions to prevent them?
AFAIK, there have been no
serious repercussions for Ortiz (expect for possibly internal moral struggles)
so it is ridiculous to peg her as a victim. Even if Oritz were to be fired as a
result of Aaron's death (which is extremely unlikely), would that make her a
victim? No! She abused the power we bestowed upon her. Taking away power that
was abused does not turn someone into a victim. It does not matter if all the
other persecutors were also abusing their power. The only other alternative is
to let her continue to abuse her power which will result in the creation of more
and more true, honest-to-goodness victims.
If Ortiz had shown even an ounce
of repentance or compassion then she might have been able to become part of the
solution instead of staying part of the problem but she seems to be convinced
that she did nothing wrong. If she stays in power she will certainly continue
to abuse her power and continue to destroy the lives of more innocent
people.
--- Our job is to remind ourselves that there are more
contexts
than the one we’re in now — the one that we think is reality.
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Authored by: symbolset on Tuesday, January 22 2013 @ 01:20 AM EST |
A guy convicted and awaiting sentencing on two five-year federal felonies for
editing an URL, a published API: A
ndrew Auernheimer. When PJ said "would do it again" perhaps she should have
said "they are doing it again and will not stop." They are certainly doing it
again in many, many cases. They will not stop of their own volition.
This
must end. [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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