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Authored by: Kilz on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 12:01 PM EDT |
First off the title of your post is offensive to me. It is
imho an ad hominem attack, not on the points. As such IMHO
it could be considered against the posting policy of
Groklaw.
Secondly I don't have to prove anything to you. You seem to
think that voting fraud doesn't exist or that it isn't
important to stop. I am not a republican, so I don't imagine
to speak for them. That I somehow have to prove that fraud
exists. No, its up to us as a society to make sure it never
happens. That we take all reasonable precautions to
safeguard against it. Showing an id is reasonable. In our
society they are very common place. This is 2013, not 1913.
I come from a area that has seen its share of voting fraud.
Cook County Il. Let me tell you one thing, any voting fraud
is to much. One vote fraudulently gotten can decide the
outcome of an election, I have seen a race decided by a
handful of votes. It also poses questions that lead to the
questioning of our electoral process and faith in our
leaders being elected.
I have been an election judge for a long time, over 10 years
to fight against such things happening, or even the
perception that it could happen.
You seem to bend over backwards to try and defend the notion
that voters shouldn't have to prove who they say they are.
Well I think its important.
I have been involved in elections where buss loads of people
are dropped off at polling places. Some of the people didnt
have all the information they should have had. Gave wrong
addresses. But the election judges couldn't prove anything.
Those people could have been posing as people who have
recently died. They wouldnt show up as being a larger number
of people. But 10 votes can win an election, in fact 1 can.
One fraudulent vote is one to many.
You are arguing against the request of a person, with lots
of years of experience, who took the job to safeguard an
election by denying them the tools to combat fraud. On the
same lines, you would probably be against electronic voting
machines, but would not put the same "find fraud first
before they are fixed" mentality.
I am also aware of the opinions a lot of people have that
say they don't vote because it doesn't matter, that its
somehow fixed. Well unless we have above board elections
that opinion will never go away and 30% turnouts on major
elections will continue to be common place.
Thirdly, if you have an issue against id's because some
people do not have them you should instead be directing your
energy to making sure they have one and if the id is
required to vote, that its provided free of charge.
Otherwise you are arguing that a little fraud its ok. That
elections can be fixed if the race is close. That the voice
of blind leaders who want to continue down the path of fraud
are important, more important than the reliability of our
voting system. So you will blindly follow them. Take the
blinders off before you fall in the ditch.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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