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Authored by: nsomos on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 12:06 AM EDT |
Please post corrections in this thread.
A summary in the title may be helpful.
Tenk you veddy much -> Thank you very much[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: bugstomper on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 12:14 AM EDT |
Please stay off topic in these threads. Use HTML Formatted mode to make your
links nice and clickable
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Authored by: SilverWave on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 02:21 AM EDT |
Just from the latest patent rules it look likely he is
leaning this way.
It would be unfair but Apple have the home advantage.
Here's hoping I'm wrong.
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RMS: The 4 Freedoms
0 run the program for any purpose
1 study the source code and change it
2 make copies and distribute them
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 02:23 AM EDT |
"single FRAND-committed patent to exclude Apple products from the United
States marketplace will set a dangerous precedent and would undermine U.S.
foreign relations by upsetting the international consensus against FRAND
abuse"
Letting APPLE continue to us a patent without paying for it, and LETTING them do
it with no threat of sales ban sets an even more dangerous precedent. Since any
company can do same thing apple is and not pay for tech they are blatantly
stealing. Yes FRAND means has to be licensed by fair and reasonable terms, that
is a 2 way street but Apple thinks its a 1 way street where they can set terms
and Samsung just as to take it in the rear.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: jbb on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 02:27 AM EDT |
Please link to the news pick so people can easily get to it even after it falls
of the Groklaw home page.
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Our job is to remind ourselves that there are more contexts
than the one we’re in now — the one that we think is reality.
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Authored by: jbb on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 02:27 AM EDT |
Thank you for your help.
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Our job is to remind ourselves that there are more contexts
than the one we’re in now — the one that we think is reality.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 03:10 AM EDT |
Wow just wow.
Go take Econ 101, 102, and hopefully their follow-ups to learn about
FRAND abuse and hold-ups and their effects on consumers and
competition.
While I usually side with Groklaw on many issues, This websites blindly
supports patent abuse if it is done by Google or/and Google partner.
Rational thinking is excluded if it doesn't favor your platform of choice?
Does Samsung have any non FRAND SEPs to counterclaim with? Moto
had 1 in Germany, Samsung has none so far.
Don't forget that the first ITC ruling of this patent favored Apple. Where
were PJs articles then?
I'm not even religious and I'm offended you brought Jesus into this. This is
a law website in regards to tech companies, why bring in in Jesus? Totally
uncalled for unless you mean to imply Apple is a cult, yet this website could
be evidence of a Google cult.
This website is no longer "Digging for Truth" but digging for the only
the
truth we want to see?
Right or Wrong or Justice? What are we searching for?
I am searching for justice thru the truth. Most readers here (not all) want a
reinforcement of their beliefs.
There are so many intelligent discussions that this website avoids, that
could lead us all to better understandings of the issues.
Maybe having counterpoint post ( without a rabid comment section ) to
further the intellectual discussions of the issues?
I want this website to become better.[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Where is right or wrong or justice? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 03:27 AM EDT
- Where is right or wrong or justice? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 03:27 AM EDT
- Reality check - Authored by: jbb on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 03:40 AM EDT
- Reality check - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 04:08 AM EDT
- Try This For Size - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 04:23 AM EDT
- Where is right or wrong or justice? - Authored by: Oliver on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 05:43 AM EDT
- Where is right or wrong or justice? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 06:18 AM EDT
- You're full of it - Authored by: Gringo_ on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 07:12 AM EDT
- A technicality - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 09:21 AM EDT
- Why are you here? - Authored by: globularity on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 07:19 AM EDT
- Ingore the troll! - Authored by: tiger99 on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 07:23 AM EDT
- "Mommy, she used the J-word!" - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 08:39 AM EDT
- "I want this website to become better." . . . Buh? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 09:07 AM EDT
- "I want this website to become better" - Authored by: hardmath on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 09:16 AM EDT
- Where is right or wrong or justice? - Authored by: PJ on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 09:21 AM EDT
- Patent Holdup and Abuse - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 09:22 AM EDT
- So you're say Apple phony Patents = good patents and Everyone else's phony patents = bad? - Authored by: celtic_hackr on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 10:11 AM EDT
- Where is right or wrong or justice? - Authored by: TemporalBeing on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 02:33 PM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 04:31 AM EDT |
In the EU, Samsung is being threatened with major fines for its anti-competitive
use of FRAND patents against Apple and is trying to wriggle out of that.
Interesting how on Groklaw the same anti-competitive behaviour is applauded. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 09:07 AM EDT |
Fair - Apple should pay
Reasonable - Apple should pay a reasonable amount
Non-Discriminitory - If others have to pay, Apple should have to pay
Accepting Apple's stance would violate Samsung's FRAND commitments.
I don't generally support patents, but when I do, I support FRAND patent
commitments. At least with FRAND standards essential patents you know about
them when you implement them and you know you should only have to pay a
reasonable price comparable to what others in the industry pay.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 27 2013 @ 09:37 AM EDT |
In simple layman's terms.
Apple: We have ask these patents stop
competing against us or pay us tons of
money.
Samsung: We have patents too. Stop
infringing them or part us the same as
everybody else.
Apple: We're not everybody else but am
special Apple. We'll not pay until a court
tells us that we are infringing your
patents and how much we need to pay.
Court (ITC): Apple, you're infringing
Samsung's patents. Stop it or get a
license.
Apple: Mr. President, it's unfair for us
to negotiate a license with an injunction
over our head. (Translation: Mommy tell
them to stop it.)
Samsung: Mr President, it's like Apple
getting an injunction on trivial patents
over trivial features that consumers don't
figure in their purchasing decisions that
they can obtain at the ITC not st District
court. Also it's unfair that they don't
pay us for using our inventions.
.... To be decided.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: BitOBear on Friday, June 28 2013 @ 08:25 AM EDT |
I wish that companies that make things and otherwise practise in places without
these ridiculous software patents, would just spend one year refusing to do
business across the U.S. border.
I know they never could, because they could never trust one another to not cave
to the economic reality, but imagine how fast things would get fixed if Sony and
Samsung and virtually everyone else just said no to our stupid scheme.
Actually, forget the one year part. When they make the choice they shouldn't
announce whether it was temporary or not.
Just every time an NPE (troll) showed up they just pulled the product; every
time someone mentioned a software patent portfolio the product didn't ship or
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- My Dark Wish - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 28 2013 @ 03:16 PM EDT
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